Comments on: how to get past the velvet rope : nightclub etiquette http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/ Advice for a generation of men raised by women Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:01:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Kiesybobs http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/#comment-99625 Kiesybobs Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:40:27 +0000 http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/#comment-99625 As it happens, I don't have an ounce of style, I must be terribly transparant - but, that doesn't necessarily mean I'm wrong. Of course, I understand that it takes place, and I fully appreciate the reasons behind it happening. My qualm is that it happens at all. It seems outmoded thesedays. I honestly think that, within reasonable parameters, the bar with the nicest bouncers would do the best business. And if that weren't true, then, certainly, if you took two identical bars, and had a fair, affable set of bouncers on one, and some ruthless, hard-faced bouncers on the other, the former would do the best business. Maybe I just want something different from my drinking experience than most of the population. I can see that, for most, maybe the glory of making it passed some strict and partial doormen, and the exclusivity that endows, would be a bit of a thrill. Nowadays, I just wanna feel safe. As it happens, I don’t have an ounce of style, I must be terribly transparant - but, that doesn’t necessarily mean I’m wrong.

Of course, I understand that it takes place, and I fully appreciate the reasons behind it happening. My qualm is that it happens at all. It seems outmoded thesedays. I honestly think that, within reasonable parameters, the bar with the nicest bouncers would do the best business. And if that weren’t true, then, certainly, if you took two identical bars, and had a fair, affable set of bouncers on one, and some ruthless, hard-faced bouncers on the other, the former would do the best business.

Maybe I just want something different from my drinking experience than most of the population. I can see that, for most, maybe the glory of making it passed some strict and partial doormen, and the exclusivity that endows, would be a bit of a thrill. Nowadays, I just wanna feel safe.

]]> By: Ash http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/#comment-97784 Ash Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:23:13 +0000 http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/#comment-97784 Kieybobs obviously has no sense of style. The thing is, if you're stood outside *the* place to be, this sorta stuff happens. The VIP list is, basically, people who the nightclub staff and managers know. And, yes, that usually means tipping a lot and giving bouncers 'courtesy' money. After all, you can get pissed off with the bouncers/barstaff from slow service and go to the pub next door (note pub, usually a quieter place, full of lower class'd people, etc) and then bam, there goes your respect'o'meter. Kieybobs obviously has no sense of style.

The thing is, if you’re stood outside *the* place to be, this sorta stuff happens. The VIP list is, basically, people who the nightclub staff and managers know. And, yes, that usually means tipping a lot and giving bouncers ‘courtesy’ money.

After all, you can get pissed off with the bouncers/barstaff from slow service and go to the pub next door (note pub, usually a quieter place, full of lower class’d people, etc) and then bam, there goes your respect’o'meter.

]]> By: Kieybobs http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/#comment-30738 Kieybobs Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:23:20 +0000 http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/#comment-30738 It's all a bit desperate, though, right? I've a sneaky suspicion this advice was pieced together by a bouncer. Bouncers are paid to control entry, but not specifically to refuse it, or even complicate the process. There should be no need to impress, decoy, suck off, befriend, and most certainly not to PAY a bouncer for entry. Goodness me. $20 minimum for every second or third person who entered...? If a bouncer makes me wait without due civility, if he lets someone in before me from farther back in the queue -- if he generally annoys me in any other way, I will leave and go to another bar. These guys are the face of the bar. They represent the handshake between being outside and inside the bar. Yet, for some reason, owners and customers alike endure far more from bouncers than should be tolerated. Okay, they have a job to do, but their job, more than almost any other factor, dictates what impression of the establishment you will leave with. A good bouncer will not make his presence unduly felt. A good bouncer will, if required to check for age or make you wait, tactfully word it, maybe involve you in an inclusive joke, an apology even, and generally appear affable and sided with you. If I see people slipping money to a bouncer, and him accepting it, it casts huge doubts as to just what the bouncer is willing to do - or not do, as the case may be - with a little cash incentive. Afterall, my well-being is to some extent in his charge. Wow. I hadn't realised I had such a wealth of pent-up anger against these guys. I need a drink. It’s all a bit desperate, though, right? I’ve a sneaky suspicion this advice was pieced together by a bouncer. Bouncers are paid to control entry, but not specifically to refuse it, or even complicate the process. There should be no need to impress, decoy, suck off, befriend, and most certainly not to PAY a bouncer for entry. Goodness me. $20 minimum for every second or third person who entered…?

If a bouncer makes me wait without due civility, if he lets someone in before me from farther back in the queue — if he generally annoys me in any other way, I will leave and go to another bar. These guys are the face of the bar. They represent the handshake between being outside and inside the bar. Yet, for some reason, owners and customers alike endure far more from bouncers than should be tolerated. Okay, they have a job to do, but their job, more than almost any other factor, dictates what impression of the establishment you will leave with.

A good bouncer will not make his presence unduly felt. A good bouncer will, if required to check for age or make you wait, tactfully word it, maybe involve you in an inclusive joke, an apology even, and generally appear affable and sided with you. If I see people slipping money to a bouncer, and him accepting it, it casts huge doubts as to just what the bouncer is willing to do - or not do, as the case may be - with a little cash incentive. Afterall, my well-being is to some extent in his charge.

Wow. I hadn’t realised I had such a wealth of pent-up anger against these guys. I need a drink.

]]> By: Gucci http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/#comment-175 Gucci Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:50:07 +0000 http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/#comment-175 I can't stress the advantages of going to the clubs during the weekdays. I have met more regulars, owners, promoters, Venture Capitalists, and Models than going on the weekends. Not to mention I actually get drunk faster since there are less people fighting to get a drink. I can’t stress the advantages of going to the clubs during the weekdays. I have met more regulars, owners, promoters, Venture Capitalists, and Models than going on the weekends. Not to mention I actually get drunk faster since there are less people fighting to get a drink.

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]]> By: cash http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/#comment-173 cash Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:03:41 +0000 http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/#comment-173 Without a doubt. So much easier to meet the staff! Without a doubt. So much easier to meet the staff!

]]> By: greg cerveny http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/#comment-171 greg cerveny Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:32:21 +0000 http://www.urbanmonarch.com/how-to-get-past-the-velvet-rope-nightclub-etiquette/#comment-171 Good tip about going on a weekday. Good tip about going on a weekday.

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